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The Francis Effect podcast: $83M judgment against Trump; papal audience with Vatican journalists; Ansel Augustine

NCR senior correspondent Heidi Schlumpf joins « The Francis Effect » podcast co-hosts Franciscan Fr. Daniel Horan (columnist for NCR) and David Dault, executive producer and host of « Things Not Seen: Conversations About Culture and Faith. » A jury has ruled that Donald Trump must pay $83 million for defaming E. Jean Carroll. Father Daniel, Heidi and David discuss that case, as well as the role of journalism in 21st-century Catholic life. Plus, Heidi interviews Ansel Augustine about the synod and experiences of Black Catholics. 

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